Sunan Ibn Majah 3311

Chapter: Roasted meat

Differing grades 4 scholars’ grades Sunan Ibn Majah 3311

حَدَّثَنَا حَرْمَلَةُ بْنُ يَحْيَى، حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ بُكَيْرٍ، حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ لَهِيعَةَ، أَخْبَرَنِي سُلَيْمَانُ بْنُ زِيَادٍ الْحَضْرَمِيُّ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ الْحَارِثِ بْنِ الْجَزْءِ الزُّبَيْدِيِّ، قَالَ

أَكَلْنَا مَعَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ طَعَامًا فِي الْمَسْجِدِ لَحْمًا قَدْ شُوِيَ فَمَسَحْنَا أَيْدِيَنَا بِالْحَصْبَاءِ ثُمَّ قُمْنَا فَصَلَّى وَلَمْ يَتَوَضَّأْ ‏.‏

It was narrated that ‘Abdullah bin Harith bin Jaz’ Az-Zubaidi said:

“We ate food with the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) in the mosque, meat that had been roasted. Then we wiped our hands on the pebbles and got up to perform prayer without performing ablution.”

Reported by Ibn Majah (No. 3311).

Classical commentary

Al-Sindi — Hashiyat al-Sindi on Sunan Ibn Majah

قَوْله ( فَمَسَحْنَا أَيْدِينَا بِالْحَصَى ) دَلِيل عَلَى أَنَّهُ يَجُوز مَسْح الْيَد مِنْ أَثَر الطَّعَام بِحَصَى الْمَسْجِد لَكِنْ فِي الزَّوَائِد فِي إِسْنَاده اِبْنُ لَهِيعَةَ وَهُوَ ضَعِيف وَقَدْ تَقَدَّمَ.…

Scholars’ grades

The 4 scholars cited do not give the same grade: each one is shown below.

Scholar	Grade	Applies to	Work
Al-Albanid. 1420 AH	AuthenticSahih	The hadith	No. 3311
Shu'ayb al-Arna'utd. 1438 AH	WeakDaif	The hadith	No. 3311
Zubair Ali Zaid. 1435 AH	WeakDaif	The hadith	No. 3311
Muhammad Fu'ad Abd al-Baqid. 1388 AH	AuthenticSahih	The hadith	No. 3311

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Not graded Sahih al-Bukhari 5455

We went out with Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) to Khaibar. and when we reached As-Sahba', which (Yahya says) is one day' journey from Khaibar, the Prophet (ﷺ) asked for food, and he was offered nothing but Sawiq which we chewed and ate. Then the Prophet (ﷺ) asked for water and rinsed his mouth, and we too…

قَالَ يَحْيَى سَمِعْتُ بُشَيْرًا، يَقُولُ حَدَّثَنَا سُوَيْدٌ، خَرَجْنَا مَعَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم إِلَى خَيْبَرَ، فَلَمَّا كُنَّا بِالصَّهْبَاءِ ـ قَالَ يَحْيَى وَهْىَ مِنْ خَيْبَرَ عَلَى رَوْحَةٍ ـ دَعَا…

Narrated by Suwayd ibn an-Nu‘mān + 1 other version

Not graded Sahih Muslim 357

I testify that I used to roast the liver of the goat for the Messenger of Allah (may peace be tipcn him) and then he offered praver but did not perform ablution.

أَشْوِي لِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم بَطْنَ الشَّاةِ ثُمَّ صَلَّى وَلَمْ يَتَوَضَّأْ ‏.‏

Narrated by Abu Rāfi + 1 other version

Not graded Muttafaq ‘alayh (Bukhari and Muslim) Sahih Muslim 356a

Ibn 'Abbas reported it on the authority of Maimuana, the wife of the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ), that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) took (a piece of goat's) shoulder at her place, and then offered prayer but did not perform ablution.

أَكَلَ عِنْدَهَا كَتِفًا ثُمَّ صَلَّى وَلَمْ يَتَوَضَّأْ ‏.‏

Narrated by Maymūna bint al-Hārith + 1 other version

Not graded Mishkat al-Masabih 4233

We were brought a platter with a large amount of tharid and slices of boneless meat and I plunged in my hand in all directions, but God’s messenger ate what was in front of him. He seized my right hand with his left and said, “Eat from one place, Ikrash, for it is all one kind of food.” Afterwards…

وَعَنْ عِكْرَاشِ بْنِ ذُؤَيْبٍ قَالَ: أُتِينَا بِجَفْنَةٍ كَثِيرَة من الثَّرِيدِ وَالْوَذْرِ فَخَبَطْتُ بِيَدِي فِي نَوَاحِيهَا وَأَكَلَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ مَنْ بَيْنِ يَدَيْهِ فَقَبَضَ…

Narrated by Ikrāsh ibn Dhu’ayb + 2 other versions

Authentic Sahih al-Bukhari 208

My father said, "I saw Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) taking a piece of (cooked) mutton from the shoulder region and then he was called for prayer. He put his knife down and prayed without repeating ablution."

يَحْتَزُّ مِنْ كَتِفِ شَاةٍ، فَدُعِيَ إِلَى الصَّلاَةِ فَأَلْقَى السِّكِّينَ فَصَلَّى وَلَمْ يَتَوَضَّأْ‏.‏

Narrated by Amr ibn Umayya ad-Damrī + 12 other versions

Authentic Muttafaq ‘alayh (Bukhari and Muslim) Jami' at-Tirmidhi 1829

That she brought a side of roasted meat to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ), so he ate it from it and stood for Salat, and did not perform Wudu' He said: There are narrations on this topic from 'Abdullah bin Al-Harith, Al-Mughirah, and Abu Rafi' [Abu 'Eisa said:] This Hadith is Hasan Sahih Gharib from…

، قَرَّبَتْ إِلَى رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم جَنْبًا مَشْوِيًّا فَأَكَلَ مِنْهُ ثُمَّ قَامَ إِلَى الصَّلاَةِ وَمَا تَوَضَّأَ ‏.‏

Narrated by Umm Salamah + 16 other versions

Sunan Ibn Majah 3311

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I testify that I used to roast the liver of the goat for the Messenger of Allah (may peace be tipcn him) and then he offered praver but did not perform ablution.

Ibn 'Abbas reported it on the authority of Maimuana, the wife of the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ), that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) took (a piece of goat's) shoulder at her place, and then offered prayer but did not perform ablution.

My father said, "I saw Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) taking a piece of (cooked) mutton from the shoulder region and then he was called for prayer. He put his knife down and prayed without repeating ablution."

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I testify that I used to roast the liver of the goat for the Messenger of Allah (may peace be tipcn him) and then he offered praver but did not perform ablution.

Ibn 'Abbas reported it on the authority of Maimuana, the wife of the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ), that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) took (a piece of goat's) shoulder at her place, and then offered prayer but did not perform ablution.

My father said, "I saw Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) taking a piece of (cooked) mutton from the shoulder region and then he was called for prayer. He put his knife down and prayed without repeating ablution."

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