Sunan Ibn Majah The Book of Purification and its Sunnah

Sunan Ibn Majah 352

Chapter: A man who is greeted while he is urinating

Differing grades 3 scholars’ grades Sunan Ibn Majah 352

حَدَّثَنَا سُوَيْدُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا عِيسَى بْنُ يُونُسَ، عَنْ هَاشِمِ بْنِ الْبَرِيدِ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عَقِيلٍ، عَنْ جَابِرِ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، أَنَّ رَجُلاً، مَرَّ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ وَهُوَ يَبُولُ فَسَلَّمَ عَلَيْهِ فَقَالَ لَهُ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ ‏

"‏ إِذَا رَأَيْتَنِي عَلَى مِثْلِ هَذِهِ الْحَالَةِ فَلاَ تُسَلِّمْ عَلَىَّ فَإِنَّكَ إِنْ فَعَلْتَ ذَلِكَ لَمْ أَرُدَّ عَلَيْكَ ‏"

It was narrated from Jabir bin `Abdullah that:

"A man passed by the Prophet while he was urinating, and greeted him by the Salam. The Messenger of Allah said to him: "If you see me in this situation, do not greet me with the Salam, for if you do that I will not respond to you.'"

Reported by Ibn Majah (No. 352).

Classical commentary

Al-Sindi — Hashiyat al-Sindi on Sunan Ibn Majah

وَقَوْله فَإِنَّك إِنْ فَعَلْت ذَلِكَ لَمْ أَرُدّ عَلَيْك يُفْهَم مِنْهُ أَنَّهُ رَدَّ عَلَيْهِ تِلْكَ الْمَرَّة وَفِي الزَّوَائِد إِسْنَادُهُ وَاهٍ فَإِنَّ سُوَيْدًا لَمْ يَنْفَرِد بِهِ فَلَهُ تَتَابُع عَنْ عِيسَى بْن يُونُس وَأَبِي يَعْلَى وَغَيْره.…

Scholars’ grades

The 3 scholars cited do not give the same grade: each one is shown below.

Scholar	Grade	Applies to	Work
Al-Albanid. 1420 AH	AuthenticSahih	The hadith	No. 352
Zubair Ali Zaid. 1435 AH	WeakDaif	The hadith	No. 352
Muhammad Fu'ad Abd al-Baqid. 1388 AH	AuthenticSahih	The hadith	No. 352

On the same subject

Not graded Sahih Muslim 369

I and 'Abd al-Rahmin b. Yasir, the freed slave of Maimuna, the wife of the Apostle (way peace be upon him). came to the house of Abu'l-Jahm b. al-Harith al-Simma Ansari and he said: The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) came from the direction of Bi'r Jamal and a man met him; he saluted him but the Messenger…

فَمَسَحَ وَجْهَهُ وَيَدَيْهِ ثُمَّ رَدَّ عَلَيْهِ السَّلاَمَ ‏.‏

Narrated by Abu Juhaym

Authentic Sunan Abu Dawud 329

I and 'Abd Allah b. Yasar, the freed slave of Maimunah, wife of the Prophet (ﷺ), came and entered upon Abu al-Juhaim b. al-Harith b. al-Simmat al-Ansari. Abu al-Juhaim said: The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) came from Bir Jamal (a place near Medina) and a man met him and saluted him. The Messenger of…

فَلَمْ يَرُدَّ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم عَلَيْهِ السَّلاَمَ حَتَّى أَتَى عَلَى جِدَارٍ فَمَسَحَ بِوَجْهِهِ وَيَدَيْهِ ثُمَّ رَدَّ عَلَيْهِ السَّلاَمَ ‏.‏

Narrated by Abu Juhaym + 4 other versions

Authentic Sahih Muslim 370

A person happened to pass by the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) when he was making water and saluted him, but he did not respond to his salutation.

رَجُلاً، مَرَّ وَرَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَبُولُ فَسَلَّمَ فَلَمْ يَرُدَّ عَلَيْهِ ‏.‏

Narrated by Abdullāh ibn ‘Umar

Authentic Sunan Ibn Majah 353

"A man passed by the Prophet while he was urinating and greeted him with the Salam, and he did not return the greeting."

مَرَّ رَجُلٌ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ وَهُوَ يَبُولُ فَسَلَّمَ عَلَيْهِ فَلَمْ يَرُدَّ عَلَيْهِ ‏.‏

Narrated by Abdullāh ibn ‘Umar + 2 other versions

Authentic Jami' at-Tirmidhi 2720

that a man gave the Salam to the Prophet (ﷺ) while he was urinating, but the Prophet (ﷺ) did not return the Salam to him."

، سَلَّمَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَهُوَ يَبُولُ فَلَمْ يَرُدَّ عَلَيْهِ يَعْنِي السَّلاَمَ ‏.‏

Narrated by Abdullāh ibn ‘Umar + 1 other version

Authentic Mishkat al-Masabih 467

Al-Muhajir b. Qunfudh said that he came upon the Prophet when he was passing water and saluted him, but he did not respond to the salutation till he had performed ablution. He then made his excuse to him saying, “I dislike mentioning God's name except when I am in a state of purity.” Abu Dawud…

وَعَن المُهَاجر بن قنفذ: أَنَّهُ أَتَى النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ وَهُوَ يَبُولُ فَسَلَّمَ عَلَيْهِ فَلَمْ يَرُدَّ عَلَيْهِ حَتَّى تَوَضَّأ ثمَّ اعتذر إِلَيْهِ فَقَالَ: «إِنِّي كرهت أَن أذكر الله عز…

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Sunan Ibn Majah 352

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A person happened to pass by the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) when he was making water and saluted him, but he did not respond to his salutation.

"A man passed by the Prophet while he was urinating and greeted him with the Salam, and he did not return the greeting."

that a man gave the Salam to the Prophet (ﷺ) while he was urinating, but the Prophet (ﷺ) did not return the Salam to him."

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A person happened to pass by the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) when he was making water and saluted him, but he did not respond to his salutation.

"A man passed by the Prophet while he was urinating and greeted him with the Salam, and he did not return the greeting."

that a man gave the Salam to the Prophet (ﷺ) while he was urinating, but the Prophet (ﷺ) did not return the Salam to him."

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