Jami' at-Tirmidhi 2803

Chapter: What Has Been Related About Entering The Hammam (Public Bath)

Differing grades 4 scholars’ grades Jami' at-Tirmidhi 2803

حَدَّثَنَا مَحْمُودُ بْنُ غَيْلاَنَ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو دَاوُدَ، أَنْبَأَنَا شُعْبَةُ، عَنْ مَنْصُورٍ، قَالَ سَمِعْتُ سَالِمَ بْنَ أَبِي الْجَعْدِ، يُحَدِّثُ عَنْ أَبِي الْمَلِيحِ الْهُذَلِيِّ، أَنَّ نِسَاءً، مِنْ أَهْلِ حِمْصَ أَوْ مِنْ أَهْلِ الشَّامِ دَخَلْنَ عَلَى عَائِشَةَ فَقَالَتْ أَنْتُنَّ اللاَّتِي يَدْخُلْنَ نِسَاؤُكُنَّ الْحَمَّامَاتِ سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَقُولُ ‏

"‏ مَا مِنِ امْرَأَةٍ تَضَعُ ثِيَابَهَا فِي غَيْرِ بَيْتِ زَوْجِهَا إِلاَّ هَتَكَتِ السِّتْرَ بَيْنَهَا وَبَيْنَ رَبِّهَا ‏"

Narrated Abu Al-Malih Al-Hudhali:

that some women from the inhabitants of Hims, or from the inhabitants of Ash-Sham entered upon 'Aishah, so she said: "Are you those whose women enter the Hammamat? I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) saying: 'No woman removes her garments in other than the house of her husband except that she has torn the screen between herself and her Lord.'"

Reported by At-Tirmidhi (No. 2803), Abu Dawud (No. 4010), Ibn Majah (No. 3750), Ahmad (No. 23010, 24238, 24446, 25100) and Ad-Darimi (No. 2537).

Classical commentary

Al-Mubarakfuri — Tuhfat al-Ahwadhi

قَوْلُهُ : ( عَنْ مَنْصُورٍ ) هُوَ اِبْنُ الْمُعْتَمِرِ. قَوْلُهُ : ( أَنَّ نِسَاءً مِنْ أَهْلِ حِمْصٍ ) بِكَسْرِ مُهْمَلَةٍ وَسُكُونِ مِيمٍ فَمُهْمَلَةٌ , هِيَ بَلْدَةٌ مِنْ الشَّامِ ( أَوْ مِنْ أَهْلِ الشَّامِ ) شَكٌّ مِنْ الرَّاوِي ( تَضَعُ ثِيَابَهَا ) أَيْ السَّاتِرَةَ لَهَا ( إِلَّا هَتَكَتْ السِّتْرَ ) , بِكَسْرِ أَوَّلِهِ , أَيْ حِجَابَ الْحَيَاءِ ( بَيْنَهَا وَبَيْنَ رَبِّهَا ) لِأَنَّهَا مَأْمُورَةٌ بِالتَّسَتُّرِ وَالتَّحَفُّظِ مِنْ أَنْ يَرَاهَا أَجْنَبِيٌّ حَتَّى لَا يَنْبَغِي لَهُنَّ أَنْ يَكْشِفْنَ عَوْرَتَهُنَّ فِي الْخَلْوَةِ أَيْضًا إِلَّا عِنْدَ أَزْوَاجِهِنَّ فَإِذَا كَشَفَتْ أَعْضَاءَهَا فِي الْحَمَّامِ مِنْ غَيْرِ ضَرُورَةٍ فَقَدْ هَتَكَتْ السِّتْرَ الَّذِي أَمَرَهَا ال…

Scholars’ grades

The 4 scholars cited do not give the same grade: each one is shown below.

Scholar	Grade	Applies to	Work
Al-Albanid. 1420 AH	AuthenticSahih	The hadith	No. 2803
Zubair Ali Zaid. 1435 AH	Good chain (hasan)Isnaad Hasan	The chain only	No. 2803
Ahmad Shakird. 1377 AH	AuthenticSahih	The hadith	No. 2803
Bashar Awwad Ma'ruf	Good (hasan)Hasan	The hadith	No. 2803

Other versions

Differing grades Sunan Abu Dawud 4010

AbulMalih said: Some women of Syria came to Aisha. She asked them: From whom are you? They replied: From the people of Syria. She said: Perhaps you belong to the place where women enter hot baths (for washing ). The said: Yes. She said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say: If a woman puts off…

مَا مِنِ امْرَأَةٍ تَخْلَعُ ثِيَابَهَا فِي غَيْرِ بَيْتِهَا إِلاَّ هَتَكَتْ مَا بَيْنَهَا وَبَيْنَ اللَّهِ تَعَالَى ‏"

Narrated by Ā’ishah

Differing grades Sunan Ibn Majah 3750

"Perhaps you are among those (women) who enter bathhouses? I heard the Messenger of Allah(ﷺ) say: 'Any woman who takes off her clothes anywhere but in her husband's house, has torn the screen between her and Allah.'"

"‏ أَيُّمَا امْرَأَةٍ وَضَعَتْ ثِيَابَهَا فِي غَيْرِ بَيْتِ زَوْجِهَا فَقَدْ هَتَكَتْ سِتْرَ مَا بَيْنَهَا وَبَيْنَ اللَّهِ ‏"

Narrated by Ā’ishah

Not graded Musnad Ahmad 23010