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Jami' at-Tirmidhi 2152

Differing grades 4 scholars’ grades Jami' at-Tirmidhi 2152

Narrator:Abdullāh ibn ‘Umar

حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ بَشَّارٍ، قال: حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو عَاصِمٍ، قال: حَدَّثَنَا حَيْوَةُ بْنُ شُرَيْحٍ، أَخْبَرَنِي أَبُو صَخْرٍ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي نَافِعٌ، أَنَّ ابْنَ عُمَرَ، جَاءَهُ رَجُلٌ فَقَالَ إِنَّ فُلاَنًا يَقْرَأُ عَلَيْكَ السَّلاَمَ ‏.‏ فَقَالَ لَهُ إِنَّهُ بَلَغَنِي أَنَّهُ قَدْ أَحْدَثَ فَإِنْ كَانَ قَدْ أَحْدَثَ فَلاَ تُقْرِئْهُ مِنِّي السَّلاَمَ فَإِنِّي سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَقُولُ ‏

"‏ يَكُونُ فِي هَذِهِ الأُمَّةِ أَوْ فِي أُمَّتِي الشَّكُّ مِنْهُ خَسْفٌ أَوْ مَسْخٌ أَوْ قَذْفٌ فِي أَهْلِ الْقَدَرِ ‏"

Nafi' narrated that a man came to Ibn 'Umar and said:

"So-and-so conveys his Salam to you." So he said: "It has been conveyed to me that he has innovated, so if he has indeed innovated, then do not convey my Salam to him, for I heard the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) saying: 'In this Ummah' or: 'In my Ummah'" - the doubt was his - "a collapse of the earth, or a transformation, or stones shall rain upon the people of Al-Qadr.'"

Reported by At-Tirmidhi (No. 2152).

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Classical commentary

Al-Mubarakfuri — Tuhfat al-Ahwadhi

قَوْلُهُ : ( أَخْبَرَنَا حَيْوَةُ ) بِفَتْحِ الْحَاءِ الْمُهْمَلَةِ وَسُكُونِ التَّحْتَانِيَّةِ وَفَتْحِ الْوَاوِ ( بْنُ شُرَيْحٍ ) مُصَغَّرًا بْنُ صَفْوَانَ التَّجِيبِيُّ أَبُو زُرْعَةَ الْمُضَرِيُّ ثِقَةٌ ثَبْتٌ فَقِيهٌ زَاهِدٌ مِنْ السَّابِعَةِ ( أَخْبَرَنِي أَبُو صَخْرٍ ) اِسْمُهُ : حُمَيْدُ بْنُ زِيَادِ بْنِ أَبِي الْمُخَارِقِ الْخَرَّاطُ صَاحِبُ الْعَبَاءِ مَدَنِيٌّ سَكَنَ مِصْرَ , وَيُقَالُ هُوَ حُمَيْدُ بْنُ صَخْرٍ أَبُو مَرْدُودٍ الْخَرَّاطُ وَقِيلَ أَنَّهُمَا اِثْنَانِ , صَدُوقٌ يَهِمُ مِنْ السَّادِسَةِ. قَوْلُهُ : ( إِنَّ فُلَانًا يُقْرِئُ عَلَيْك السَّلَامَ ) ضُبِطَ فِي النُّسْخَةِ الْأَحْمَدِيَّةِ بِضَمِّ الْيَاءِ التَّحْتَانِيَّةِ وَكَسْرِ الرَّاءِ. وَقَالَ فِي الْقَامُوسِ قَرَ…

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Scholars’ grades

The 4 scholars cited do not give the same grade: each one is shown below.

ScholarGradeApplies toWork
Al-Albanid. 1420 AH Good (hasan)Hasan The hadith No. 2152
Zubair Ali Zaid. 1435 AH Good chain (hasan)Isnaad Hasan The chain only No. 2152
Ahmad Shakird. 1377 AH Good (hasan)Hasan The hadith No. 2152
Bashar Awwad Ma'ruf AuthenticHasan Sahih The hadith No. 2152

Other versions

Good (hasan) Mishkat al-Masabih 116

Nafi' told how a man came to Ibn ‘Umar with a message that so and so sent him a greeting. He replied that he had heard he had introduced an innovation and that if that were so, he was not to convey his greeting to him, for he had heard God’s messenger say, “Among my people,” or “among this people…

عَن نَافِع أَن ابْن عمر جَاءَهُ رجل فَقَالَ إِنَّ فُلَانًا يَقْرَأُ عَلَيْكَ السَّلَامَ فَقَالَ لَهُ إِنَّهُ بَلَغَنِي أَنَّهُ قَدْ أَحْدَثَ فَإِنْ كَانَ قَدْ أَحْدَثَ فَلَا تُقْرِئْهُ مِنِّي السَّلَامَ فَإِنِّي…

On the same subject

Authentic Jami' at-Tirmidhi 2185

'In the end of this Ummah there will be a collapse, transformation, and Qadhf."' She said :"I said: 'O Messenger of Allah! Will they be destroyed while they are righteous among them?' He said: 'Yes, when evil is dominant."'

"‏ يَكُونُ فِي آخِرِ هَذِهِ الأُمَّةِ خَسْفٌ وَمَسْخٌ وَقَذْفٌ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَتْ قُلْتُ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ أَنَهْلِكُ وَفِينَا الصَّالِحُونَ قَالَ ‏"‏ نَعَمْ إِذَا ظَهَرَ الْخَبَثُ ‏"

Narrated by Ā’ishah

Good (hasan) Mishkat al-Masabih 106

I heard God’s messenger say, “Some of my people will be swallowed up and some will be metamorphosed. That will come about among those who declare God’s decree to be false." Abu Dawud transmitted it and Tirmidhi transmitted something similar.

وَعَنِ ابْنِ عُمَرَ قَالَ: سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ: «يَكُونُ فِي أُمَّتِي خَسْفٌ وَمَسْخٌ وَذَلِكَ فِي الْمُكَذِّبِينَ بِالْقَدَرِ» . رَوَاهُ أَبُو دَاوُدَ وروى التِّرْمِذِيّ…

Narrated by Abdullāh ibn ‘Umar + 1 other version

Good (hasan) Sunan Ibn Majah 4061

“So-and-so sends his Salam to you.” He said: “I have heard that he has introduced innovations (into Islam). If he has indeed introduced innovations, then do not convey my Salam to him, for I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say: ‘There will be among my nation – or among this nation –…

"‏ يَكُونُ فِي أُمَّتِي - أَوْ فِي هَذِهِ الأُمَّةِ - مَسْخٌ وَخَسْفٌ وَقَذْفٌ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ وَذَلِكَ فِي أَهْلِ الْقَدَرِ ‏.‏

Narrated by Abdullāh ibn ‘Umar

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