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Jami' at-TirmidhiThe Book on Jihad

Jami' at-Tirmidhi 1704

Chapter: What Has Been Related About Who Is Placed In Charge During War

Weak 3 scholars’ grades Jami' at-Tirmidhi 1704

Narrator:Al-Barā' ibn ‘Āzib

حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ أَبِي زِيَادٍ، حَدَّثَنَا الأَحْوَصُ بْنُ الْجَوَّابِ أَبُو الْجَوَّابِ، عَنْ يُونُسَ بْنِ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ، عَنْ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ، عَنِ الْبَرَاءِ، أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم

بَعَثَ جَيْشَيْنِ وَأَمَّرَ عَلَى أَحَدِهِمَا عَلِيَّ بْنَ أَبِي طَالِبٍ وَعَلَى الآخَرِ خَالِدَ بْنَ الْوَلِيدِ وَقَالَ ‏"‏ إِذَا كَانَ الْقِتَالُ فَعَلِيٌّ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ فَافْتَتَحَ عَلِيٌّ حِصْنًا فَأَخَذَ مِنْهُ جَارِيَةً فَكَتَبَ مَعِي خَالِدُ بْنُ الْوَلِيدِ إِلَى النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَشِي بِهِ فَقَدِمْتُ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَرَأَ الْكِتَابَ فَتَغَيَّرَ لَوْنُهُ ثُمَّ قَالَ ‏"‏ مَا تَرَى فِي رَجُلٍ يُحِبُّ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَيُحِبُّهُ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ قُلْتُ أَعُوذُ بِاللَّهِ مِنْ غَضَبِ اللَّهِ وَغَضَبِ رَسُولِهِ وَإِنَّمَا أَنَا رَسُولٌ ‏.‏ فَسَكَتَ

Narrated Al-Bara' :

"The Prophet (ﷺ) sent two armies, place 'Ali bin Abi Talib as the commanded of one of them, and Khalid bin Al-Walid over the other. He said: 'Where there is fighting, then 'Ali (is in command).'" He said: "So 'Ali conquered a fortress and took a slave girl. Khalid [bin Al-Walid] wrote a letter and sent me with it to the Prophet (ﷺ), to speak against him for it. So I arrived to the Prophet (ﷺ) to read the letter. The color of his face changed, the he said: 'What do you think about a man who loves Allah and His Messenger, and Allah and His Messenger love him?'" He said: "I said: 'I seek refuge from angering Allah and angering His Messenger, I am only the Messenger.' So he was silent.

[Abu 'Eisa said:] There is something about this from Ibn 'Umar. This Hadith is Hasan Gharib, we do not know of it except from the narration of Al-Ahwas bin Jawwab. And his saying: "To speak against him for that." refers to An-Namimah.

Reported by At-Tirmidhi (No. 1704, 3725).

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Classical commentary

Al-Mubarakfuri — Tuhfat al-Ahwadhi

قَوْلُهُ : ( عَنْ يُونُسَ بْنِ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ ) السَّبِيعِيِّ أَبِي إِسْرَائِيلَ الْكُوفِيِّ صَدُوقٌ يَهِمُ قَلِيلًا مِنْ الْخَامِسَةِ ( عَنْ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ ) هُوَ السَّبِيعِيُّ. قَوْلُهُ : ( بَعَثَ جَيْشَيْنِ ) وَفِي حَدِيثِ بُرَيْدَةَ عِنْدَ أَحْمَدَ : بَعَثَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ بَعْثَيْنِ إِلَى الْيَمَنِ ( إِذَا كَانَ الْقِتَالُ فَعَلِيٌّ ) وَفِي حَدِيث بُرَيْدَةَ : إِذَا اِلْتَقَيْتُمْ فَعَلِيٌّ عَلَى النَّاسِ , وَإِنْ اِفْتَرَقْتُمَا فَكُلُّ وَاحِدٍ مِنْكُمَا عَلَى جُنْدٍ ( قَالَ فَافْتَتَحَ عَلِيٌّ حِصْنًا فَأَخَذَ مِنْهُ جَارِيَةً ) وَفِي حَدِيثِ بُرَيْدَةَ : فَلَقِينَا بَنِي زَيْدٍ مِنْ أَهْلِ الْيَمَنِ فَاقْتَتَلْنَا فَظَهَرَ الْمُسْلِمُونَ عَلَى الْم…

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Scholars’ grades

ScholarGradeApplies toWork
Al-Albanid. 1420 AH Weak chainDaif Isnaad The chain only No. 1704
Zubair Ali Zaid. 1435 AH WeakDaif The hadith No. 1704
Ahmad Shakird. 1377 AH Weak chainDaif Isnaad The chain only No. 1704

Other versions

Weak Jami' at-Tirmidhi 3725

"The Prophet (ﷺ) dispatched two armies and put 'Ali bin Abi Talib in charge of one of them, and Khalid bin Al-Walid in charge of the other. He said: "When there is fighting, then (the leader is) 'Ali." He said: "So 'Ali conquered a fortress and took a slave girl. So Khalid sent me with a letter to…

"‏ إِذَا كَانَ الْقِتَالُ فَعَلِيٌّ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ فَافْتَتَحَ عَلِيٌّ حِصْنًا فَأَخَذَ مِنْهُ جَارِيَةً فَكَتَبَ مَعِي خَالِدٌ كِتَابًا إِلَى النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَشِي بِهِ ‏.‏ قَالَ فَقَدِمْتُ عَلَى…

Narrated by Al-Barā' ibn ‘Āzib

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  • تاريخ دمشق لابن عساكر (44137)مَا تَقُولُ فِي رَجُلٍ يُحِبُّ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ ، وَيُحِبُّهُ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ
  • تاريخ دمشق لابن عساكر (44138)مَا تَقُولُ فِي رَجُلٍ يُحِبُّ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ ، وَيُحِبُّهُ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ ، قَالَ : قُلْتُ : أَعُوذُ بِاللَّهِ مِنْ غَضَبِ اللَّهِ
  • شرح أصول اعتقاد أهل السنة والجماعة للالكائي (2192)مَا يَقُولُ فِي رَجُلٍ يُحِبُّ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ ، وَيُحِبُّهُ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ ؟ قَالَ : قُلْتُ : أَعُوذُ بِاللَّهِ مِنْ غَضَبِ اللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ
  • مسند الروياني (313)مَا يَقُولُ فِي رَجُلٍ يُحِبُّ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ ، وَيُحِبُّهُ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ ؟
  • مصنف ابن أبي شيبة (31438)مَا تَقُولُ فِي رَجُلٍ يُحِبُّ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَيُحِبُّهُ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ ؟

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