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Mishkat al-MasabihEvents of the Day of Resurrection and the Beginning of Creation

Mishkat al-Masabih 5725

Chapter: The Beginning of Creation, and Mention of the Prophets - Section 2

Not graded Mishkat al-Masabih 5725

Narrator:Laqīt ibn Sabira

عَن أبي رزين قَالَ: قلت: يَا رَسُول الله أَيْن رَبُّنَا قَبْلَ أَنْ يَخْلُقَ خَلْقَهُ؟ قَالَ: «كَانَ فِي عَمَاءٍ مَا تَحْتَهُ هَوَاءٌ وَمَا فَوْقَهُ هَوَاءٌ وَخَلَقَ عَرْشَهُ عَلَى الْمَاءِ» . رَوَاهُ التِّرْمِذِيُّ وَقَالَ: قَالَ يَزِيدُ بْنُ هَارُونَ: الْعَمَاءُ: أَيْ لَيْسَ مَعَه شَيْء

Abu Razin told that he asked God's messenger, "Where was our Lord before He created the creation?" to which he replied, "He was in obscurity ('ama') with no air below Him and no air above Him, and He created His Throne on the water." Tirmidhi transmitted it. Yazid b. Harun[1] said `ama' means that there was nothing with Him[2]. Al-Wasiti (d.206), a highly estimated authority who appears in the course of the isnad. The word 'ama' presents difficulty. It commonly means `clouds', but this is felt to be inappropriate here unless figuratively in the sense of God being veiled. It is suggested that this means it is a matter which the mind cannot grasp. Cf. Mirqat, 5:349.

Reported by At-Tirmidhi (No. 3109), Ibn Majah (No. 182) and Ahmad (No. 15599, 15611). Cited in Mishkat al-Masabih (No. 5725).

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from his uncle Abu Razin who said: "I said: 'O Messenger of Allah! Where was our Lord before He created His creation?' He said: 'He was (above) the clouds - no air was under him, no air was above him, and He created His Throne upon the water.'" Ahmad [bin Mani'] said: "Yazid bin Harun said…

"‏ كَانَ فِي عَمَاءٍ مَا تَحْتَهُ هَوَاءٌ وَمَا فَوْقَهُ هَوَاءٌ وَخَلَقَ عَرْشَهُ عَلَى الْمَاءِ ‏"

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